What is the best-known book set in Turkey?

See note on methodology

(Apologies – there was a glitch posting an earlier version of this just before I went out for a rather nice dinner.)

Two books by the same Nobel prize-winning author come out on top here. The first, published in 2002, is tagged “Turkey” more often than any other on both Goodreads and LibraryThing, and has the most readers on LT and the second most on GR. The second, published in 1998, is the second most frequently tagged “Turkey” on both systems, and for total readers it narrowly wins on GR and is only a little behind on LT. The two books are:

Snow/Kar, by Orhan Pamuk
My Name is Red/Benim Adım Kırmızı, by Orhan Pamuk

Now, with Turkey there is an unusual problem. Can we count books that are set in the territory of the country we now call Turkey, but are timed before there were any Turks living there? Because if so, there is a clear winner which crushes more recent Nobel laureates (and most other writers) into the dust of ancient battle. It is, of course:

The Iliad, by Homer

I’m also discounting the following novels on the grounds that less than half – sometimes a lot less than half – of the plot (though sometimes a significant section) is set in Turkey. Both Middlesex, by Jeffrey Eugenides and The Historian, by Elizabeth Kostova have more readers on both LT and GR, and GoodReads would add also Inferno, by Dan Brown, Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie, The Sandcastle Girls by Chris Bohjalian and The Forty Rules of Love, by Elif Şafak, though all of them are a long way behind on LT. I am ready to be assured that the last of these is really largely set in Turkey, where it was apparently a mega-best-seller; it wasn’t clear to me from online reviews if this is the case.

Otherwise the ancient writer wins for works set in what we now call Turkey, and the Nobel laureate dominates lists of books set in Turkey at a time when it was actually called Turkey.

What is the best-known book set in Germany?

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The winner here is reasonably clear. The most widely owned book on GoodReads which is set in Germany, and the second most widely owned on LibraryThing, is also the book most frequently tagged “German” by the users of both systems. It was published in 2005, and made into a 2013 film. The narrator is a supernatural being (or perhaps a primal entity), but the story is otherwise grittily realistic. It is set in Munich during the Second World War. It is:

The Book Thief, by Markus Zusak.

As mentioend above, there is one other book with a German setting, also during the Second World War, which is owned by more people on LibraryThing. However, the German setting is only one passage (admittedly the most memorable one) in a book which also passes through wartime Belgium and Luxembourg, 1960s America (it was published in 1969) and an alien planet where humans are displayed in a zoo. It is, of course:

Slaughterhouse-Five, or The Children’s Crusade: A Duty-Dance with Death, by Kurt Vonnegut

The third, fourth and fifth most frequently tagged books on both systems are the same, though in slightly different order. Third on LibraryThing, fourth on Goodreads, is another Second World War novel, published in 1995 and made into a film in 2008. It is:

The Reader/Der Vorleser, by Bernhard Schlink

Third on Goodreads, but fifth on LibraryThing, is a novel of the First World War rather than the Second. Published in 1928/29, it was adapted into a famous film with the same title in 1930, and was of course burned by the Nazi regime. It is:

All Quiet on the Western Front/Im Westen nichts Neues, by Erich Maria Remarque

And in fourth place on LibraryThing, fifth on GoodReads, is a historical work published in 1960, a comprehensive effort to address not only the Second World War but also its causes:

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany, by William Shirer

Apologies to Günter Grass, Hermann Hesse and Thomas Mann, who I had hoped to see doing better.

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Links I found interesting for 03-02-2015

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What is the best-known book set in Russia?

See note on methodology

Despite the richness of the field, there is a surprising convergence not just on the best-known book set in Russia, but on the top three spots. In order, the most widely-owned books set in Russia on both LibraryThing and GoodReads (all nineteenth-century classics) are:

Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky
Anna Karenina by Lev Tolstoy
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky

At fourth place on GoodReads (fifth on LibraryThing) is a twentieth-century magical realist satire on Stalinism, written by a Ukrainian but clearly set in Moscow:

The Master and Margarita, by Mikhail Bulgakov

And on fourth place on Librarything (sixth on Goodreads, behind a bio of Catherine the Great) is my personal favourite work of Russian literature, though I suspect that its sheer size puts some readers off:

War and Peace, by Leo Tolstoy.

Bubbling under: Solzhenitsyn, Zamyatin, Gogol, Nabokov.

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What is the best-known book set in Northern Ireland?

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My methodology has led to more than the usual amount of homework here. A lot of the books that are tagged "Northern Ireland" are not in fact all that popular, and I had to do some serious drilling to get the results by number of owners. Once I had done that, both LibraryThing and GoodReads threw up a number of false positives with books whose authors are from Northern Ireland (C.S. Lewis, Flann O'Brien, Maggie O'Farrell) or which discuss Northern Ireland without being set there (Trinity, gawd help us, by Leon Uris).

But I have ended up with two light novels, neither of which I have read but both of which I may give a try. The LibraryThing winner, first published in 2004, got re-released in 2007 and has been a huge hit in Canada (whose profound links with my homeland are not always appreciated). It is set in a thinly disguised Holywood, County Down, before the Troubles, and is the first in a series of ten books. It is:

An Irish Country Doctor, by Patrick Taylor.

From County Down we move to a fictional village in County Antrim ("the armpit of Antrim, on the north of the north coast of the north of Northern Ireland") for the GoodReads winner, also the first in a series, also published in the mid-2000's (2006 to be precise), a supposedly humorous mystery story about a Jewish immigrant to Ulster who is accused unjustly of Crime, which is also the book most often tagged “Northern Ireland” on both Goodreads and LibraryThing and therefore I suppose is today’s winner:

The Case of the Missing Books, by Ian Sansom

I find it interesting that both of them skirt the Troubles chronologically, one set before and the other after.

On LibraryThing, I may have to disqualify Transatlantic by Colum McCann because I think only a section of it is set in Northern Ireland. Next after that, and far ahead of the rest, is a childhood memoir and a Booker nominee, Reading in the Dark by Seamus Deane. The second-ranked book on GoodReads is a Troubles thriller, The Ghosts of Belfast by Stuart Neville which I had not heard of.

The top non-fiction book on both systems is The IRA by Tim Pat Coogan.

Colin Bateman, Robert McLiam Wilson and Seamus Heaney are not too far down the list.

(After this I'm going to run through sovereign European states, in descending order of population – starting with Russia.)

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What is the best-known book set in Ireland?

See note on methodology

As with Wales, and even more crushingly, there is a very clear winner in this category. Most frequently tagged "Ireland" on both GoodReads and LibraryThing, and owned by more users on both systems than any other book set in Ireland, it won a Pulitzer and dominated the best-seller lists of 1997. It is, for once, a work of non-fiction.

Angela's Ashes, by Frank McCourt.

There are in fact two books even more popular among GoodReads users which have been tagged "Ireland" because of the origin of their authors, but as far as I remember (and I've re-read both fairly recently) no part of Dracula or The Picture of Dorian Grey is set in the writers' homeland.

On Librarything, it's fairly close at the top, though, with the winner just a nose ahead of Ulysses, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and Dubliners in terms of number of readers.

Those three are a bit further down the list on GoodReads, though with P.S. I Love You by Cecelia Ahern and In the Woods by Tana French in second and third place, and Darkfever by Karen Marie Moning in fifth (after the adaptation of Homer, but ahead of the student memoir and the short stories). Is it worth my checking any of those out?

Bubbling under: Roddy Doyle, Maeve Binchy, Leon Uris (gawd help us),How the Irish Saved Civilization by Thomas Cahill.

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January Books

Non-fiction: 8
Circe's Cup, by Clare Carroll
The Life and Death of Mary Wollstonecraft, by Claire Tomalin
Turner's Taoisigh, by Martin Turner
Een geschiedenis van België voor intelligente kinderen (en hun ouders), by Benno Barnard and Geert van Istendael
Getting the Buggers to Behave, by Sue Cowley
Write It Right: A Little Blacklist of Literary Faults, by Ambrose Bierce
The Longest Afternoon: The 400 Men Who Decided The Battle Of Waterloo, by Brendan Simms
The Flag Dispute: Anatomy of a Protest by Paul Nolan, Dominic Bryan, Clare Dwyer, Katy Hayward, Katy Radford & Peter Shirlow

Circe Mary Wollstonecraft Turner geschiedenis van België Getting the Buggers to Behave Write It Right Longest Afternoon Flag Dispute

Fiction (non-sf): 1
Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage by Alice Munro

Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage

SF (non-Who): 15
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σ3 – did not finish
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Doctor Who, etc: 3
The Ultimate Treasure, by Christopher Bulis
The Domino Effect, by David Bishop
Oh No It Isn't!, by Paul Cornell

The Ultimate TreasureThe Domino Effect

Comics : 2
Are You My Mother?, by Alison Bechdel
The Blood of Azrael, by Scott Gray, Michael Collins, Adrian Salmon and David A. Roach

Are You My Mother Blood of Azrael

~8,500 pages
10/29 by women (Carroll, Tomalin, Cowley, Dwyer/Hayward/Radford, ν3, ψ3, ω3, α4, Bechdel)
1 by PoC (ξ3)

Reread: 0

Reading now:
Anna Karenina, by Leo Tolstoy
Watership Down, by Richard Adams
I Don't Know How She Does It, by Allison Pearson

Coming soon (perhaps):
Het Achterhuis, by Anne Frank
Tree and Leaf, by J R R Tolkien
Transit of Earth
The Jonah Kit, by Ian Watson
The Charm of Belgium, by Brian Lunn
The Wretched of the Earth, by Frantz Fanon
With The Light Vol 8, by Keiko Tobe
A Slip of the Keyboard, by Terry Pratchett
Wages of Sin, by Andrew M. Greeley
Kushiel's Justice, by Jacqueline Carey
Scales of Gold, by Dorothy Dunnett
The Shadow of the Wind, by Carlos Ruiz Zafon
Stopping for a Spell, by Diana Wynne Jones
Islands In The Stream, by Ernest Hemingway
Mating, by Norman Rush
The Egyptian, by Mika Waltari
The Painted Man/The Warded Man, by Peter V. Brett
The Complete Robot, by Isaac Asimov
The Balkans: Nationalism, War & the Great Powers, 1804-1999, by Misha Glenny
Martial Power and Elizabethan Political Culture: Military Men in England and Ireland, 1558-1594, by Rory Rapple
Een geweer in het water, by Hermann
The seven-per-cent solution; being a reprint from the reminiscences of John H. Watson, M.D, by Nicholas Meyer
Warmonger, by Terrance Dicks
Reckless Engineering, by Nick Walters
Dragons' Wrath, by Justin Richards

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Links I found interesting for 31-01-2015

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What is the best-known book set in Wales?

See note on methodology

I confess that I’ve looked at the answers to this question for a lot of European countries by now, preparing a number of these posts. There aren’t many where the top book is as far ahead of the field – on both LibraryThing and Goodreads – as it is in this case. And there are even fewer cases where it’s a book I simply hadn’t heard of. But this is one of them. The most widely owned book by a long way (among both LibraryThing and Goodreads users) which is set in Wales is:

Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children by Ransom Riggs

Apparently it’s a beautifully illustrated and spooky book for YA readers, published in 2011. It’s also the most frequently tagged “Wales” by Goodreads users, and third on LibraryThing.

The two books most frequently tagged as “Wales” by LibraryThing users are:

The Mabinogion (Librarything)
Here be Dragons by Sharon Kay Penman (Goodreads, second on LibraryThing)

I am of course familiar with the first of these. The second is the opening novel of a historical fiction trilogy, which has clearly done well while passing me by.

Fourth place in LibraryThing tags, and second on Goodreads tags, is the one I would have immediately thought of:

How Green Was My Valley by Richard Llewellyn

Bubbling under, Fall of Giants by Ken Follett (second most popular “Wales”-tagged book on Goodreads), The Grey King and Silver on the Tree by Susan Cooper, Among Others by Jo Walton, The Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander – not all of which are entirely or exactly set in Wales.

Sorry, Dylan Thomas. You didn’t quite make it to the top. (Nor did Torchwood.)

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Thursday reading

Current
Anna Karenina, by Leo Tolstoy (a chapter a day)
Watership Down, by Richard Adams (a chapter a week)
Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage, by Alice Munro
I Don’t Know How She Does It, by Allison Pearson
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Last books finished
The Longest Afternoon: The 400 Men Who Decided The Battle Of Waterloo, by Brendan Simms
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The Blood of Azrael, by Scott Gray, Michael Collins, Adrian Salmon and David A. Roach
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Last week’s audios
Welcome to Night Vale eps 58-60
Mistfall, by Andrew Smith

Next books
Het Achterhuis, by Anne Frank
Tree and Leaf, by J R R Tolkien

Books acquired in last week
Martial Power and Elizabethan Political Culture, by Rory Rapple

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Links I found interesting for 29-01-2015

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What is the best known book set in Scotland?

See note on methodology

Thanks to all for a brilliant discussion of well-known books set in England. Now I am moving north…

Scotland is a case where the answers are somewhat confusing.

First off, I will ruthlessly ignore the seven Harry Potter novels, even though Hogwarts is supposedly in Scotland. Apologies to Scottish Potterfans, but I think that for most readers they would fail the test of "If you were asked to name five books set in Scotland, would any of the Harry Potter books have been one of them?"

The most popular book on LibraryThing which is set in Scotland is also the second most popular on GoodReads set in Scotland. It's also one I happen to know quite well. It's not a novel, nor a non-fiction work. It's set 450 years before it was written and bears very little resemblance to the historical events it supposedly describes. But it certainly passes the "think of a story set in Scotland" test. It is:

Macbeth, by William Shakespeare

However, more popular on GoodReads, and almost as popular on LibraryThing – and crucially, by far the most frequently tagged with the keyword "Scotland" on both systems – is a book that I, frankly, had not heard of:

Outlander by Diana Gabaldon

Published in 1991, it is the first of a long and successful series of time-travel romance novels, which were adapted for television in 2014. I welcome views from you as to whether or not I should remedy my ignorance of this work which is so close in popularity to the other work named above.

Trainspotting, Kidnapped and The Wasp Factory (all of which I have read) are some way behind.

Edited to add: I am retrospectively declaring the play rather than the fantasy novel the winner here. The first time round, I neglected to count the various different collections that the play appears in, which will pull it decisively ahead on Goodreads.

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What is the best known book set in England?

A note on methodology

I was very interested by this list of the most famous books set in each US state which I saw last week, to the extent of thinking about how I might measure the best known book set in neach European country. As ever in these matters, I have turned to my trusty friends LibraryThing and GoodReads, each of which allows users to record the books that they own and also to tag (LT) or shelve (GR) by key words such as setting. I did a quick response on Twitter using those figures for the four main divisions of the British Isles.

But in fact that only records how often people reading a particular book thoguht to tag it as set in a particular country. They may be wrong about its setting; the book itself may be have a universal appeal that transcends its location. With a little more effort, one can dig into the numbers and find which books that are (sometimes) tagged as being set in a particular country are also the most widely owned among users of both websites.

The results have been interesting. In more than half of all cases that I have looked at so far, LibraryThing and GoodReads users agree on a particular book that has Country X as a setting and is particularly well-known. In a couple of cases – three Shakespeare plays, to take a convenient example – the actual presentation of country X in the work is rather different from the reality; it's as if the author had never been there but just chose to write a story that was set there. In those cases I shall also strive to present an alternative book more firmly grounded in that country's setting than you might get if you were adapting an obscure sixteenth-century novella or historical chronicle for the stage.

I hope you will find the results interesting.

So, what is the best known book set in England?

I'm breaking the rules with my very first post, or course; in general I shall be running through Europe's sovereign states as they are in 2015, but for the UK I shall take each bit separately. (If you are lucky I'll get on to the Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey.)

The top seven books by popularity which have been tagged "England" by LibraryThing users and shelvedas "England" by GoodReads users are identical. They are:

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling,
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling,
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling,
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling,
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince by J.K. Rowling,
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by J.K. Rowling, and
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling.

I have to say that although a lot of readers clearly consider these books to be very English, they are quite deliberately not set in any version of England that we know. The same criticism applies to the eighth book on both systems:

Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell.

Of course it is ostensibly set in England, but a future England from the writer's perspective that has not come to pass from the perspective of the reader thirty years after the book was set, and seventy after the book was written. If you were asked to name five books set in England, would this have been one of them?

The book most frequently tagged "England" on Librarything is the same as the book most frequently "shelved" as "England" on GoodReads, and it is ninth in popularity among those books on both systems after those identified above. It is:

Pride and Prejudice, by Jane Austen.

And this makes perfect sense. If we reframe the question slightly as "name the best known book that people in the wider English-speaking world think of as being set in England", it's obvious that this is a very good candidate and not surprising that the on-line catalogues bear that out.

And anyway, Hogwarts is in Scotland. Which is where we will go next.

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Links I found interesting for 25-01-2015

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Thursday Reading

Blogging has been a bit light around here of late – my priority is finishing the books submitted for the Arthur C. Clarke Award, and I'm now at the stage where, even if I decide in the first hundred pages of a particular novel that I'm not going to push it for the shortlist (let alone the top spot), I usually still want to know how the story ends – it's rare for a book to leave me so unmoved (or annoyed) that I can comfortably forego the resolution. I suspect this is going to lead to some late (or, rather, even later) reading nights as our internal deadlines approach.

Anyway, the tally of books that I am reading, have read, intend to read, and have acquired in the last week is reported below. (Some of the last category was acquired as a result of this event, especially the part of the discussion that starts around 58:48.)

Current
Anna Karenina, by Leo Tolstoy (a chapter a day)
Watership Down, by Richard Adams (a chapter a week)
The Blood of Azrael, by Scott Gray, Michael Collins, Adrian Salmon and David A. Roach
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Last books finished
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Oh No It Isn't!, by Paul Cornell
Een geschiedenis van België voor intelligente kinderen (en hun ouders), by Benno Barnard and Geert van Istendael
Getting the Buggers to Behave, by Sue Cowley
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Write It Right: A Little Blacklist of Literary Faults, by Ambrose Bierce

Last week's audios
Welcome to Night Vale Eps 52-57, also 2 bonus episodes
An Ordinary Life, by Matt Fitton

Next books
Het Achterhuis, by Anne Frank
Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage, by Alice Munro

Books acquired in last week
The Longest Afternoon: The 400 Men Who Decided The Battle Of Waterloo, by Brendan Simms
Sharpe's Waterloo, by Bernard Cornwell
The Charterhouse of Parma, by Stendhal
Discipline or Corruption, by Constantin Stanislavsky, George Martin, Anna Darl, Karen Cooper, Susan Harris and Jennifer Harris
Rauf Denktaş: A Private Portrait, by Yvonne Çerkez

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Links I found interesting for 22-01-2015

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